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Path: bloom-beacon.mit.edu!hookup!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!think.com!spdcc!merk!miracle!phil
From: phil@miracle.com (Phil Hill)
Organization: Boston Mensa
Reply-To: rom-faq@miracle.com
Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.edu
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa,rec.answers,news.answers
Followup-To: rec.org.mensa
Date: 20 Mar 94 08:08:15 GMT-5
Message-ID: <032094Join@miracle.com>
Supersedes: <29May93.apply@miracle.com>
Keywords: MENSA, MIND, IQ, INTELLIGENCE, GENIUS, SOCIETY, ORGANIZATION,
CLUB, SOCIAL, SCHOLARSHIP, GIFTED
Subject: Mensa - FAQ: Do I qualify for Mensa? How do I Join? [BiWeekly]
Summary: This posting contains the answers to many Frequently Asked
Questions (FAQs) about Mensa. It should be read by anyone
who wishes to post to the rec.org.mensa newsgroup, or anyone
that desires information about the Mensa society.
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Archive-name: mensa/join
Version: 1.3
Last-Updated: Jul 17, 1993
These are the answers to some of the frequently asked questions (FAQ) in
rec.org.mensa. Before posting a message asking a question, read this
article. Chances are the answer is in here, or one of the other Mensa
FAQ articles.
This article includes answers to:
6) What are the Qualifications for Mensa?
7) How do I apply for Membership in Mensa?
8) How do I Re-Join Mensa?
9) Where do I get more Information?
Other articles include the answers to:
Question Archive-Name Posted
-------- ------------ ------
1) What is Mensa? mensa/faq BiWeekly
2) Who is Mensa For? " "
3) Why Should I Join Mensa? " "
4) What are Members of Mensa Like? " "
5) What does "Mensa" mean? " "
10) What other High-IQ Societies are there? mensa/high-iq Monthly
11) What famous people are in Mensa? mensa/famous Monthly
12) What is the Mensa test like? mensa/test Monthly
You may retreive copies of this article and the other answers to Mensa
FAQs by anonymous FTP from rtfm.mit.edu. Those without FTP
access should send e-mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with:
"send usenet/news.answers/finding-sources"
in the body to find out how to do FTP by e-mail.
Comments? Suggestions? Corrections? Send e-mail to rom-faq@miracle.com
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6) What are the Qualifications for Mensa?
* QUALIFICATION BY PROVIDING PRIOR EVIDENCE.
Applicants must supply evidence of intelligence test scores in the top 2%
of the population, or arrange to have it sent. All documentation will be
returned. Notarized photostatic copies of original documents are usually
acceptable.
A list of qualifying scores for several of the major intelligence tests
is given below:
* QUALIFYING TEST SCORES#
California Test of Mental Maturity IQ 132
(California) Test of Cognitive Skills IQ 132
Cattell IQ 148
Stanford Binet, Form L-M IQ 132
Wechler Adult and Children Scales
(WAIS and WAIS-R, WISC and WISC-R) IQ 130
Otis-Lennon Tests IQ 132
Otis-Gamma Test IQ 131
SAT or CEEB (Verbal and Math combined) prior to 9/77 1300
effective 9/77 1250
GRE Verbal and Math combined) 1250
LSAT prior to 1982 662
effective 1982 39
ACT Composite 29
Miller Analogies Test raw score 66
MCAT or GMAT (overall) 95%
Army GCT prior to 10/80 136
Navy GCT prior to 10/80 68
Many other intelligence tests may also be accepted subject to
individual appraisal of the documentation by Mensa's Supervisory
Psychologists, e.g.: Henmon-Nelson, NY State Regents Scholarship
Test(Aptitude section only), Cattell Culture Fair, SRA Primary Mental
Abilities.
# Note: The term "IQ score" is used as a convenient, easily understood
reference. Candidates for membership in Mensa must achieve a score
at or above the 98th percentile on a standard test of intelligence.
The "IQ Score" varies from test to test, as shown by the list above.
Mensa reserves the right to alter or change these norms as the tests
shown are renormed or restandardized. All prior evidence submitted to
Mensa will be appraised individually and Mensa reserves the right to
make the final determination about the acceptability of any test.
* TO OBTAIN PRIOR EVIDENCE:
* I.Q. TESTS GIVEN IN ELEMENTARY OR HIGH SCHOOLS.
Write to the school you attended, and ask for a CERTIFIED copy of
your score. It must include your birth date, the grade in which you
took the test, the name of the test, and a clearly defined number,
i.e., IQ, or percentile rank nationally. Mensa does not accept
achievement tests. School seal must be stamped.
* ARMY, NAVY, AIR FORCE, OR MARINE SCORES
A certified copy of your records, which you may have, or a copy from
Demobilized Records Branch, St. Louis, MO. Unfortunately, a fire
there destroyed many records some years ago.
* MEMO ON MILITARY SCORES
The only scores that Mensa can accept are: the AGCT scores from the
Army - before the use of the ASVAB, and the GT scores from the Navy
- also prior to the use of the ASVAB. The new military tests are
vocational aptitude tests and are not suitable for Mensa admission.
Mensa has been asked specifically not to use them for this purpose.
This is unfortunate, but communication with the government agency
with the government agency that makes up and distributes the
tests (ASVAB) indicates clearly that they are unsuitable for
Mensa purposes.
* INDIVIDUAL TESTING DONE BY A PSYCHOLOGIST, OR AGENCY.
The report must be sent to Mensa on professional letterhead, with the
psychologist's or agency's license or registration number. Mensa
accepts only tests given by those people qualified to do testing
privately in the state in which the examiner resides. Date of test,
name of test, and full score must be given, and the report must be
signed.
* MILLER ANALOGIES TEST (MAT)
Psychological Corp., 555 Academic Ct., San Antonio, TX 78204 Call
(512) 299-1061 for latest advice.
* QUALIFICATION THROUGH MENSA TESTING
If you're not sure whether you're Mensa material, simply complete the
application below, and return it with your check or money order for $12.
Mensa will send you a pretest you can take in the privacy of your home.
When you've finished it, send it back to Mensa. It will be scored, and
you will be notified of the results. If your score indicates an IQ at or
above the 95th percentile, you'll be invited to take the qualifying
supervised test#, which costs $25. (Although the pre-test is not
required for admission, many people take it anyway simply for the
challenge.)
If you prefer, you may apply directly to take the supervised test at one
of many locations convenient to you. If your score on that test is at or
above the 98th percentile, you'll be offered membership in Mensa.
# Note: Mensa's tests are not valid for people under the age of 14; they
can qualify for membership via prior evidence, described earlier.
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7) How do I apply for Membership in Mensa?
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APPLICATION FORM
Mail to:
American Mensa, Ltd.
Dept. Usenet
2626 East 14th Street
Brooklyn, NY 11235-3992
(718) 934-3700
Name _______________________________________ Date of birth _____________
Address ________________________________________________________________
City _______________________________ State ______________ Zip _________
Home phone (____) _______________
Work phone (____) _______________
[ ] Please send me the at-home pre-test. I understand that if I score
in the top 5%, I will be invited to take the supervised test.
Enclosed is U.S. $12 (check or money order) for the pretest.
[ ] I wish to go directly to the Mensa-supervised test. Please send me
the name and address of the nearest proctor (a $25 fee is to be paid
to the proctor.) I understand that if I score in the top 2%, I will
be invited to join Mensa.
[ ] I claim exemption from testing and enclose prior evidence of
intelligence test scores in the top 2% of the general population.
Enclosed is my U.S. $15 (check or money order) non-refundable
evaluation fee. (If the evidence is being sent to us directly by a
psychologist or testing institution, please note that the score must
be sent on an official letterhead and signed by the psychologist or
institution responsible for the testing.)
Amount enclosed: $___________ (All checks must be drawn on U.S. banks in
U.S. funds.)
I learned about Mensa through: Usenet newsgroup "rec.org.mensa"
Answers to Frequently Asked Questions
Prepared by Phil Hill, Boston Mensa
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It should be noted that the information given as to how to join Mensa
applies only to residents of the United States. Others should write to
one of the addresses given at the end of the FAQ or to Mensa
International, 15 The Ivories, 6-8 Northampton St, London N1 2HY,
UNITED KINGDOM.
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8) How do I Re-Join Mensa?
If you were a member at any time in the past contact the national office
and they can reinstate your membership after the payment of the current
year's dues.
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9) Where do I get more Information?
OFFICERS OF NATIONAL MENSAS
(NOTE: IBD indicates membership on the International Board of
Directors. CEO denotes the Chief Executive Officers of a
national Mensa. Provisional Mensas are indicated by a (P) in the
entry.)
Australia, CEO, IBD: Therese Moodie-Bloom, Australian Mensa, Inc., P.O.
Box 213, TOORAK, VICTORIA 3142, Australia.
Austria, (P), CEO: Rudolf Challupner, Mensa Oesterreich,
Stofling 13 A-4850, Timlekam, Austria, (43) 732 56442 250; FAX:
(43) 732 56441 783.
Belgium CEO: Andre Jacquet, Mensa Belgium-Luxembourg, 13, Rue de
Mazy, B-5030 Gembloux, Belgium, (32) 81 61.05.63
Britain, CEO, IBD: Sir Clive Sinclair, British Mensa, 18
Shepherd House, 5 Shepherd St., London W1Y 7LD UK, (44) 71 636
4488, FAX: (44) 71 580 6628
Britain, NATREP, IBD: John McNulty, Oxhey Hall, Oxhey Herts WD1
4NU (44) 923 228 466
Britain, NATREP, IBD: Neil Goulder, 28 Peppercorn Way, East
Hunsbury, Northampton NN4 OTT, UK, (44) 604 768882
Canada, CEO, IBD: Joel Matthews, 866 Grosvenor Ave., Winnepeg,
MB, R3M 0N3 Canada, (204) 477-5774
Channel Islands, CEO, IBD: Dr. Jacqueline Berlet, 4 Choisi
Terr., Les Gravees, St. Peter Port, Guernsey, (44) 0481 722515
Czechoslovakia (P): Jan Fikacek, Chairman, Borskeho 664/33,
15200 Prague 5, Czechoslovakia, (42) 1798 9608
Denmark, CEO, IBD: Maria McGrail, Kronprinsesse Sofies, Vej 43, 3 Tv,
2000 Frederiksberg, Denmark, (45) 31 860 737
Finland, CEO, IBD: Mr. Seppo Jarvinen, Laajavuorenkuja 8 E 56,
01620 Vantaa, Finland, (60) 878-2319
France, CEO, IBD: Francois Adrien, International Liaison, 9 Av
du General Mangin, 78000 Versailles, France, (33) 1 3955 1048,
FAX: (33) 1 4767 5415
Germany, CEO, IBD: Margot Schmied, Chairman MinD, Saarlandstrasse 22,
W-8940 Memmingen, Germany
Germany: Office of MinD: Mensa in Deutschland e.V., John Plate,
Muenzstrasse 6, W-5000 Koeln 80, Phone (49) 221 618215,
Fax (49) 221 622169
Hong Kong (P), CEO: Don Meyer, Penthouse 25 Plantation Rd., The
Peak, Hong Kong, (852) 849 6579; FAX: (852) 849 7018
Ireland, CEO: Judy Hewitt, 67 Merville Gdn Village, Newtown
Abbey, Co. Antrim, Northern Ireland, (44) 0232 851675
Italy, CEO: Mr. Menotti Cossu, Via Cassia 1328, 00123 Rome, Italy,
(39) 6 30.31.08.60, Fax: (39) 6 30.31.10.09
Malaysia, CEO, IBD: Mr. Heah Kok Soon, 97a Jalan SS21/1A,
Damansara Utama, Petaling Jaya, Malaysia, (03) 718 9561
Netherlands, CEO, IBD: Mr. Bram van Haren, Postbus 100, 3500 UN Utrecht
AC Utrecht, Nederland, (31) 10 4382507
New Zealand, CEO: Susan Askew, Box 35080, Browns
Bay, Auckland 10, New Zealand, (64) 9 478 9552
South Africa, CEO: Leni van de Velde, Box 1396, Pinegrowrie,
2123 South Africa, (011) 792-2378; FAX: (011) 792-5558
Spain, CEO: Mr Xavier Belles Ros, Escorial 115 6-3,
08024 Barcelona, Spain, (34) 3 430 6543
Spain, Mensa Espa~na, Apdo. 35126m 08080 Barcelona, Spain
(34) 20 25 6127
Sweden (P), CEO: Jola Sigmond, Tryffelvagen 17 183 38 Taby,
Sweden, (46) 8 7581987
United States, CEO, IBD: David D. Felt, Chairman, POB 515,
Sierra Madre, CA 91025 USA, (818) 355-8825, FAX: (818) 308-6041
United States, NATREP, IBD: Darlene Criss, 2311 S. Santa Fe,
Wichita, KS 67211 USA, (316) 264-5234
United States, NATREP, IBD: Dave Remine, 4 Gander Ln.,
Manalapan, NJ 07726 USA, (201) 462-5336, FAX: (201) 738-6776
United States, NATREP, IBD: Gabriel Werba, 400 Renaissance Ctr.
Ste. 2770, Detroit, MI 48243 USA, (313) 259-4947
United States, NATREP, IBD: Amy Shaughnessy, 369 O St. SW,
Washington, DC 20024 USA, (202) 484-2697
United States, NATREP, IBD: Rose Lee B. Crutcher, POB 20355,
Louisville, KY 40250-0355 USA, (502) 458-4949
United States, NATREP, IBD: Helen Kupper, 1450 E. 55th Pl., No.
519, Chicago, IL 60637-1877 USA, (312) 363-6105
Yugoslavia, (P): Josip Saban, President, Avenija Borisa Kidrica
9a, 41020 Zagreb, Yugoslavia, (38) 41 527 876, FAX: (38) 41 527
847
EMERGING MENSAS
MENSA BULGARIA
George Chavdarov, Chairman, Blvd Tsar Osvoboditel 29a, 1504 Sofia,
Bulgaria, 359 2 437 448
MENSA COLOMBIA
Camilo Trujillo de Rueda, Apartado Aereo 28414, Santa Fe de Bogota,
DC COLOMBIA, (57) 616 5442
MENSA INDIA
Mr. K.C. Shroff, Chairman, Mensa India, Excel Industries, 184-87 S.V. Road
Jogeshwari, Bombay - 400102 INDIA
MENSA INDONESIA
Thomas Thoha, J1 Duren Sawit Timur V Blok NIII/1, Jakarta Timur,
Indonesia, (62) 21 82 1332 795; FAX: (62) 21 82 460 0857
MENSA GREECE
Andreas Halkiadakis, President, PO Box 71504-15210,
Athens, Greece
MENSA PAKISTAN
Mr Faisal Qureshi, G-5 Al Yusuf Chambers, New Challi, Shahrah-e-Liaquat,
Karachi 74200, Pakistan, (92) 21 262 4888/9
MENSA POLAND
Dr. A. Fal, Chairman, Mensa Polska, Ul Szronowa 7, 53-023,
Wrocaw, Poland, (64) 9 478 9552
MENSA ROMANIA
Mr. & Mrs. Daniel Serbanica, CP 22-509, Bucharest, Romania, (40)
0 714 303
MENSA SINGAPORE
Lew Sin Chye, Secretary, 21 Cuscaden Rd, Ming Arcade #06-08
Singapore 1024
MENSA SWITZERLAND
Laura Anne Hartmann, President Mensa Ch, Residence 49 CH-1752
Villars-sur-Glane, Switzerland, (37) 224 572
MENSA THAILAND
Mr. Peter R. Davis, New World House, 2, Thanon Samsen, Banglam
Phy, Ban Pranthom, Pranakhon, Bangkok, Thailand 10200, (66) 2 281
5596-605
MENSA TURKEY
Mr. Kerem Kaner, Kukurtlu, Karagoz sok., Ergun apt. 39/13, 16080
Bursa, Turkey